Subject: Re: [Livid-dev] CSS chain of events? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: andreas@soma.andreas.org Original-Sender: livid-dev-admin@livid.on.openprojects.net Content-Length: 6510 Lines: 119 > I've seen various versions of how the CSS hack came to be - between > dodsrip, DeCSS, and css-auth, I don't know where this all started. > I found this included in the DeCSS zip file: MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> - The Truth about DVD CSS cracking by MoRE and [dEZZY/DoD] - MoRE+DoD> ------------------------------------------------------------ MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> Date: 4th of November 1999. MoRE+DoD> By: [dEZZY/DoD], [MultiAGP & German dood of MoRE] MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> This document is written cooperatively by the two groups MoRE+DoD> that independently and simultaneously cracked the DVD Content MoRE+DoD> Scrambling System, in order to straighten out mass media MoRE+DoD> confusion. MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> DoD -> Drink or Die: "warez bearz from Russia and Beyond" MoRE+DoD> MoRE -> Masters of Reverse Engineering MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> [dEZZY/DoD] alone is the author of DoD DVD Speed Ripper. MoRE+DoD> MoRE is a new group and they are the authors of DeCSS. MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> Lately, Jon Johansen of MoRE has been pretty much all over MoRE+DoD> the news in Norway, though he had NOTHING to do with the actual MoRE+DoD> cracking of the DVD CSS protection. Yes, it was MoRE who did MoRE+DoD> DeCSS, but the actual crack was not a team effort, MoRE didn't MoRE+DoD> even exist back when the anonymous German (who is now a MoRE MoRE+DoD> member) cracked it... MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> Most of the papers chose a headline very similar to this: MoRE+DoD> "15-year old Norwegian cracked the DVD-code". MoRE+DoD> They probably did this because they wanted to make a big MoRE+DoD> Norwegian "Wooohoooo" out of it. This was also pretty much MoRE+DoD> the contents of the TV show "Vestfold-sendingen" where they MoRE+DoD> brought up matters from Vestfold, Norway where Jon Johansen MoRE+DoD> lives. MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> In most newspapers they vagely included the name MoRE, and MoRE+DoD> that DeCSS was a team effort, but neither MoRE nor DoD liked MoRE+DoD> the headlines. Jon's comment on this matter is: MoRE+DoD> "I never told the media that I had cracked the dvd encryption. MoRE+DoD> What I told them, was that we (MoRE) had made an app called MoRE+DoD> DeCSS which would decrypt dvd movies and let them be played MoRE+DoD> off your hd, or off dvdrs if you have a dvd burner. I always MoRE+DoD> used _we_ and _MoRE_ when talking to them. I never said anything MoRE+DoD> about me or my position in the group. MoRE+DoD> Now that the storm is over, I see that all they were after, MoRE+DoD> was to get a big story. They even included some of "my" quotes, MoRE+DoD> which I never said. When media starts making up stuff, it's really MoRE+DoD> sad. I know that this has been done before in Norwegian media, MoRE+DoD> regarding the cooperation between a computer group at my school MoRE+DoD> and the school people in charge of the network. All I can say is MoRE+DoD> that I'm very sorry that the media twisted my words, and even lied, MoRE+DoD> to make it appear as I had done the cracking myself. I'm pretty MoRE+DoD> sure that I will do everything to avoid the media in the future, MoRE+DoD> but if I'm forced to talk with them, I'll have to get them to MoRE+DoD> sign an agreement. Again, I apologize on the behalf of Norwegian MoRE+DoD> press, and I hope that this document will make everything clear. MoRE+DoD> The truth shall set you free." MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> DoD DVD Speed Ripper was developed by [dEZZY/DoD] at the MoRE+DoD> same time as DeCSS. The first release of DoD's app (which MoRE+DoD> came out a couple of weeks before the first release of DeCSS) MoRE+DoD> did not work with all (WB) titles, like The Matrix. This was MoRE+DoD> known by [dEZZY/DoD] at the time of his release. MoRE decided MoRE+DoD> to wait until they could fix this. In short time, [dEZZY/DoD] MoRE+DoD> solved the problem and MoRE's top coder/disassembler from MoRE+DoD> Germany used that information to get DeCSS working with every MoRE+DoD> movie before they released it, along with a GUI. DeCSS was then MoRE+DoD> the first application which decrypted ALL dvd titles, since DoD MoRE+DoD> had not released a new version to the public. How MoRE got MoRE+DoD> their hands on the information by [dEZZY/DoD], seems to have MoRE+DoD> something to do with the Linux community... MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> Why Drink or Die didn't want to release a new version so soon, MoRE+DoD> was because warez sites nuke programs that are too close in MoRE+DoD> release (minimum 2-3 weeks). Meanwhile when DeCSS came out, it MoRE+DoD> caused DoD to delay any Windows release until a GUI version of MoRE+DoD> their Speed Ripper was done. However, they released a Linux MoRE+DoD> version of their ripper late October 1999. As for the new Windows MoRE+DoD> version of the Speed Ripper, [dEZZY/DoD] has been very busy with MoRE+DoD> his education and hence the ripper is extremely delayed. MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> [dEZZY/DoD] already got the idea of reverse engineering a DVD MoRE+DoD> player for the CSS code back in late summer 1998. He was not able MoRE+DoD> to do it at the time since he did not have access to a DVDROM. In MoRE+DoD> the beginning of 1999, MoRE's German member also got the idea. MoRE+DoD> [dEZZY/DoD] and MoRE's German member got CSS decryption code MoRE+DoD> working at the same time (middle of September 1999), without MoRE+DoD> having shared info (although they knew about each other). After MoRE+DoD> [dEZZY/DoD] solved "the problem", MoRE's German member, as stated MoRE+DoD> above, implemented these changes and added them to DeCSS for MoRE+DoD> release. MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> Before DeCSS was developed and released, MoRE had already sent MoRE+DoD> the source for the decryption to their contact in the Linux DVD MoRE+DoD> community, Derek Fawcus . This is the reason MoRE+DoD> why one of Wired's news reporters was put on the case. MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> [dEZZY/DoD] also had relations in the Linux DVD community (who MoRE+DoD> does not want to be mentioned), but decided not to release the MoRE+DoD> source code publicly (at least not for the moment). MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> Enjoy the software! MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> MoRE+DoD> - Jon Johansen [MoRE] MoRE+DoD> - anonymous German cracker [MoRE] MoRE+DoD> - [dEZZY/DoD]